Romans 8:1 – There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus

There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus.

“WHO WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH, BUT AFTER THE SPIRIT”………… also verses 13-14. It’s very important that we take ALL scripture in context and not pull one out here and one out there to apply it to our situations……May we all be blessed as we seek HIS face and will for our lives according to His Word.

While the repentant harlot is not physically a virgin, their is no record of their sins of harlotry. They ARE a new creation. As are all repentant sinners.

All repentant sinners are free of their sins. But apparently there are some here that disagree with that fact of Scripture.

If one is guilty of adultery, repentance means they will quit the adultery—not stay in it. You are correct in that if one comes to faith in Jesus as a ‘harlot’, forsaking their life as a harlot, their sins are remembered no more. However, as we all know, harlotry is a sin. Marriage is not a sin to be repented of/therefore forgiven of. Divorce and a subsequent adulterous union are sin, therefore repentance in those cases are necessary to be in true fellowship with the Lord.

And if this is what Jesus meant when Jesus Himself said that WHOSOEVER divorces their spouse and marries another commits adultery………..and………….whosoever marries one divorced commits adultery. Then this comparison in Mal 2 does nothing to represent Christ, or that detestable thing that was committed in Israel and in Jerusalem by Judah who desecrated the sanctuary the Lord loves, by marrying the daughter of a foreign god.

There is no comparison… Because if Judah divorced her today according to 1 Cor 7 and by what Jesus meant, then Judah would be willingly committing adultery in Christ.

The problem you have is proving that what Jesus calls adultery is a lawful, binding marriage in His sight. I see absolutely nothing in scripture which leads to the belief that joining oneself with another’s spouse then makes that one a lawful spouse in the sight of God. As was said earlier many times, adultery was a stonable offense—-a punishment given by God Himself. Can you provide scripture which shows that the relationship God calls sin (adultery) is now sanctioned and JOINED by Him?

Again what is your point? If one has forsaken their sin in Christ then are they forgiven of that sin, how is it that they are in a state of perpetual sin once it has been forgiven?

As I said, if you can show me how that sinful relationship now has changed into a lawful one—-joined by God, I would be glad to see that. If not, then I am inclined to believe, as I would with other sins, that what was adultery before confession is still adultery AFTER confession. The one who truly repents will stop the adultery from continuing…….because the person who was not their spouse before confession is STILL not their spouse in God’s eyes.

I think my point is not coming through clearly. There is forgiveness offered to the repentant murderer, child molester, spouse abuser, thief, etc. Where is the forgiveness for the divorcees or the remarried, if you believe these are sins committed? The murderer cannot bring back the dead but they can move on and live life. The molester cannot remove the scars left but they can receive forgiveness and move on in life, but for those who have divorced or been divorced and remarry, there is no forgiveness unless they give up their current spouse. They cannot decide to make this current marriage lifelong and commit to not making the same mistakes they did in the past.

The Lord has called ALL to forsake their sin and return to Him and He will show mercy: “He who covers his sins will not prosper, but whoever confesses AND forsakes them will have mercy.” Prov. 29:13

If a child molester confesses AND forsakes their sinfulness, there is no guilt. If a murderer confesses AND forsakes murdering, there is no longer guilt. If an adulterer confesses AND forsakes their adultery(the unlawful union), there is no guilt. You are asking that some CONTINUE in their sin and NOT have guilt. This does not agree with scripture……….the Lord demands Holiness in those who call on His name.

“There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Sure its sin. Its miserable. Its never good. Its sometimes necessary. And for those who have no choice but to get out of what can be a literal hell on earth, God still loves. Still forgives. Why else would He have included the story in the Bible of the woman who had failed so miserably at marriage. It was to show those of us who go through it “I still love you”

Let me ask you a question: Would you feel AOK with attending a church with an active homosexual pastor, or a pastor who is openly fornicating or encouraging fornication to occur under the guise of “grace”? Would you feel ok that a church is telling it’s people to “only look at your own sins”, ignore the rest of God’s Word that shows how sin allowed to remain in the camp causes MORE sin?

Let me ask you another question, does the Blood of Jesus not only wash of our sins, but also give us the power not to CONTINUE in sin? Did He save us only to leave us in our past condition, with no power to change our lives to cause us to be more like Him? See, I do believe in the Love of Jesus—-why? Because I was a BIG sinner and I KNOW His power to change a life. As He makes known sin in my life, and all true believer’s lives, they CHANGE more and more into HIS image. We do not stay the same. When Jesus came upon the woman at the well, He did not say, “you’re ok just the way you are”. He let her know that He KNOWS her sin. What He also let her know is this: if you “drink” of me, you will never be the same again—-your life WILL Change!!!

We all have a “past” so to speak, some of our pasts are worse than others. Yet the truth is, if we truly do submit our lives to Christ (we DIE to self), our lives WILL change. If we are liars, we will hate lying…………if we are adulterers, we will hate adultery………..if we are fornicators, we will hate fornication, if we are covetous, we will hate coveting………. We hate these things when we are walking in the Spirit. When we are walking in the flesh, we do not hate these things, we justify/excuse them away, we practice them, etc. In the manner we walk, so shall we reap——-in the flesh, destruction. In the Spirit, peace and eternal life. Read all of Romans 8…………..